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Political Action and Education




Is there a voter education night in your area? A political rally? A house-party to discuss the issues? Have you found a website that thoughtfully addresses issues surrounding California’s Proposition 8?

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  1. 1LRCon 10 Aug 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Here’s a new website people might be interested in (it’s just getting started):

    http://www.republicansagainst8.com/

    Our ward is having a presentation about the proposition before we are all supposed to head out and spend three hours on each of the next few Saturdays canvassing neighborhoods and calling people. Our ward coordinators say they’re just going out to find out if (a) people have heard of the issue; and (b) if they’re decided/undecided on it. If people are undecided, they’re handing out informational pamphlets (pro-8) and if they’re against it, canvassers will note the addresses so nobody wastes money sending pro-8 mail to those homes.

    Anyone want to join us at the local food bank for a few hours over the next few Saturdays?

  2. 2Chino Blancoon 10 Aug 2008 at 6:40 pm

    The Irvine PR company that runs the “Yes on 8” media campaign is holding an Open House on:

    Thursday, August 14th, 2008
    5:30 p.m – 8:30 p.m.

    2020 Main Street
    Irvine, CA 92614

    All those opposed to Prop 8 are invited to attend and/or rally at 2020 Main on August 14th.

    Details here:

    http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6587

    I am still looking for someone local to help coordinate. If you or anyone you know would be agreeable to helping by providing a local telephone contact number, that’d be great.

    I’m not local, so won’t be able to attend, but I’m keen to continue with helping promote turnout and would also like to pay for “No on 8″ swag for the event. I’ve got a budget of $500 that I’d like to see spent on banners, yard signs, etc. All I’d ask is that the signs and banners be in place for the duration of the 3-hour Open House. After the event, the swag would be yours to keep.

    If you or your group would be interested in taking me up on this offer, please drop a comment at my blog.

    http://chinoblanco.blogspot.com

    Cheers,

    Chino

  3. 3Chino Blancoon 11 Aug 2008 at 2:03 am

    ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

    Coalition meeting of all organizations and groups in Orange County working towards the Freedom to Marry and ultimately true Marriage Equality!

    Who: As many representatives from different organizations/groups as possible working for Marriage Equality in Orange County

    What: Marriage Equality Coalition (1st Meeting)

    When: Thursday, August 21st, 2008, 2:30pm

    Where: Irvine United Congregational Church
    4915 Alton Parkway
    Irvine, CA 92604
    (949) 733-0220

    How: By all coming together in one place at one time

    Why: To network, figure out how we can help each other, see what each of us is doing in the fight for marriage equality right now, strategize together, inform each other, meet each other…

    If you have any questions please contact Erin Weller, OC Chapter Coordinator for Progressive Christians Uniting, at eweller@pcu-la.org or (714) 721-6554.

    Note: This meeting is not being orchestrated by Progressive Christians Uniting, and PCU is in no way attempting to necessarily bring more people to work specifically with PCU. The idea stemmed from PCU’s OC Marriage Equality Strategy Team. The group felt that there was a lot going on in Orange County around marriage equality, but that not everyone knew everyone involved, and felt that that needed to change. PCU is hoping to help bring people together, secular or faith driven, Christian or of another faith, to sit around one table and get to know one another. We must come together and work together if we are to win this very important fight for the freedom to marry.

    And please PASS THIS MESSAGE ON!

    We want to get as many representatives around the table as possible!!!

  4. 4Chino Blancoon 13 Aug 2008 at 9:32 pm

    UPDATE: The local tel contact for our August 14th action in Irvine is Vern Nelson at 714-235-VERN

    Here’s a direct link to the flyer in 8.5 x 11 (PDF) print format:

    http://www.echols.info/SF-Irvine-Aug-14-Flyer.pdf

    The final announcement is now up at the blogs listed below.

    http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/08/13/action-alert-tell-the-right-wing-consultants-no-to-prop-8/

    http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6650

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/13/112550/273/228/567260

    http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6488

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/8/13/12561/8314

    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7485

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/8/13/13922/1271

    Thank you again for helping to promote this action!

  5. 5LRCon 15 Aug 2008 at 9:13 am

    The California Libertarian Party has come out against Prop 8 as well:

    http://ca.lp.org/lp20080813.shtml

  6. 6Jeanie Mortensen-Besamoon 18 Aug 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Chino,

    Did anyone take you up on your offer of $500 for the No on 8 swag? If not, would you be interested in supporting a rally/vigil in Sept. in So. Calif? I’m the coordinator for the local event of of the “Seven Straight Nights for Equal Rights” campaign. While this is a national campaign, the event in California is focusing on defeating Prop 8. I’m going to hold the event in the San Fernando Valley so that we can pull supporters from Ventura County, San Fernando, Santa Clarita. I’m a high school teacher so I’m recruiting students from local high schools and colleges to help organize this and I’m impressed by their enthusiasm. I’m hoping to get enough networking activated that LDS who oppose 8 will find out about the event and join us. Because this event focuses on straight people showing their support for marriage equality, it may be a bit less intimidating than going to a rally in West Hollywood ;)

    It sounds like you’ve been involved in activism before. Any good tips you’ve got on action planning (particularly good swag sources) would be appreciated. While I’ve participated in actions before, this is the first that I’ve been in charge of.

  7. 7Chino Blancoon 20 Aug 2008 at 2:04 am

    Jeanie,

    At the last minute, I made contact with a blogger in Huntington Beach who made the trip out to Irvine and reported back that a half-dozen folks showed up to leaflet the building where the Open House was hosted. He filed his report here:

    http://orangejuiceblog.com/2008/08/jubals-terror-unfounded-schubert-flint-not-overrun-by-gay-yippie-bloggers/

    I offered Vern (the blogger) money to help with expenses, but he wouldn’t take it. So, yes, I still have some extra $$ that I’d like to spend on targeted actions.

    If you drop me an email at jason [at] echols.info … I’ve got folks I’d like to put you in touch with (e.g., the Finance Manager for Southern CA for Equality California is preparing to send out kits for those who’d like to host house parties, and such kits might come in handy for other purposes … so he could put you on the mailing list). Drop me a line and I’ll shoot over an email with all the contacts I’ve got in hand for SoCal.

    This is my first time getting involved in an initiative campaign. I’m based in Taiwan, so my somewhat frenetic attempts at online activism are more the result of me over-compensating for not being around than they are evidence of any useful experience.

    By the way, did you catch this?

    Apparently, there is a plan in place to put up one million ‘Yes on 8′ yard signs at 7:00 am on September 22nd.

    I’ve posted a letter sent from Boyd K. Packer on July 28th to the California LDS stake presidents that would seem to suggest as much.

    If you’re interested, pls take a peek:

    LDS ‘Yes on 8′ Game Plan

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/19/224211/910/755/570793

    We absolutely need to get our hands on yard signs. Lots of yard signs. I’ll let you know if I hear more about their availability.

  8. 8Jeanie Mortensen-Besamoon 20 Aug 2008 at 5:18 pm

    I did check on the dailykos site. I really don’t think it is a letter from Elder Packer. The language is all wrong, G.A.’s don’t work at the level this memo alludes to, etc.. Unfortunately someone is trying to create a panic and that really is counterproductive. I recommend that you don’t participate in the rumor. (Although, there will be a lot of signs.)

    As I did in 2000, I want to order bumper stickers that say “My marriage doesn’t need protection. Civil rights do. No on 8.” They were pretty hot last time around. I just haven’t gotten around to finding a supplier yet.

    I do want the info on your contact(s) with EQ-CA I absolutely want to coordinate with them. I’ve sent two emails through their website and haven’t back yet. I will contact you via email regarding details.

    I’m putting at least this much of a response on the blog because I want to make two points for others. First, networking is critical in campaigning, and it is so much easier to do now with the internet. Even though Chino and I our thousands of miles apart, he/she is able to connect me with someone practically in my own backyard who can help me. Second, if you are upset about the church’s involvement on this, the most therapeutic (and productive) thing you can do is get involved in the campaign to defeat Prop 8. You can argue intellectually on blogs and with church members until you are blue in the face and it probably won’t make much difference. But on the campaign, you’ve got an automatic hook to get people to listen to you when you say that you are Mormon. At the very first campaign event I went to in 2000, after I introduced myself as a Mormon, I had several gay people come up and hug me and say thankyou. From that point on, I never doubted that I was doing the right thing…and I know that I personnaly made a difference.

  9. 9admin3on 20 Aug 2008 at 5:28 pm

    I agree that the tone of the letter purported to be from Elder Packer is a bit off – it’s much too casual. It wouldn’t surprise me too much if somebody took notes on a call or a talk and turned those into the letter, though.

    That being said, the avalanche of signs is, indeed, a goal of the Yes on 8 folks. Our ward training program said that signs would be handed out a few days before September 22nd, but with instructions to not actually put them out until 7 a.m. on the 22nd. They wanted to give the effect that suddenly the signs were blossoming all over the place and all-of-a-sudden everyone was supporting the proposition.

    I wonder if anyone has put together the significance of September 22nd to Mormons, or if it just happened to be a random day 6 weeks prior to the election.

  10. 10Chino Blancoon 20 Aug 2008 at 6:34 pm

    If that letter was not the real deal, I wonder why that blog where I originally found it is no longer public?

    It’s not a big deal, but I made sure the original pages were archived, as I’m sure I’ll be called a liar for insisting on the authenticity of the letter:

    http://ia311233.us.archive.org/1/items/Boyd-K-Packer-Letter-July-28/letter-from-brother-packer.html

    In any case, thank you for confirming the Sep 22 morning plan. That’s what really caught my eye when I first read the letter.

    Moving on … drop me a line and we’ll move on to more important matters.

  11. 11On Lawnon 21 Aug 2008 at 5:18 am

    Hello folks.

    I’m going to give a gentle plug for Opine Editorials. A site devoted to, “Defending marriage on the firm ground of reason and respect for human dignity.” Much like yours, though we seem to fall on different sides on this issue.

    I came here from Chino’s website over his ventilating over some of the Prop 8 plans he discovered.

    Currently I’m reviewing the LDS document, “The Divine Institution of Marriage”. Of which all parts are currently visible from the front page. I’m interested in y’all’s thoughts.

    Many Thanks,

  12. 12Chino Blancoon 22 Aug 2008 at 1:16 am

    The Pew Research Center has released a new national survey that finds a majority of the public now saying that churches should keep out of political matters.

    This article over at PewResearchCenter Publications comes with some nice charts and graphs as well …

    http://pewresearch.org/pubs/930/religion-politics

  13. 13admin3on 22 Aug 2008 at 10:19 pm

    We’ve tried to provide some information that may help answer an all-important question in a new post, Have four judges overturned the will of the people?

  14. 14LRCon 23 Aug 2008 at 10:57 am

    We’re hosting a get-together in SF Bay Area on Labor Day weekend. Anyone interested in meeting like-minded folks to talk about Prop. 8 or church life in general is welcome. We’ll plan on a potluck barbecue Saturday afternoon (the date is August 30th) in Santa Clara County. If you’re interested in joining, drop me a line and I’ll get the details to you: aurlarae at yahoo dot com .

  15. 15Jeanie Mortensen-Besamoon 23 Aug 2008 at 5:07 pm

    “My Marriage doesn’t need Protection. But Civil Rights do! No on 8.” bumper stickers are available at cafepress.com/noprop8 in case anyone would like to publicly display their opposition. I set up the shop site so if anyone else has bumper sticker ideas, or other campaign material that they want to have put on there, let me know.

  16. 16LRCon 23 Aug 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Not to compete at all, but there’s also some stuff on zazzle with the theme, “Family – it’s about time!”

    Jeanie, if you want the zazzle artwork to add to cafepress, let me know and I’ll send it your way.

  17. 17Jeanie Mortensen-Besamoon 24 Aug 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Sounds great. Send me what you’ve got. I set up the site so that people could find stuff or design their own. Any proceeds are being donated to the No on 8 campaign. If anyone wants a sticker or T-shirt with a Mormons for Marriage theme, maybe someone who is artistic can design the artwork and I’ll put it out there. Any artists or creative types out there who want to make there voice heard? (It’s a wonderful opportunity to use all those skills you’ve learned at R.S. Enrichment nights.)

  18. 18anonymousactivememberon 24 Aug 2008 at 9:46 pm

    As my background, I am a 40 year old single female who has been active in the church my whole life. I went to BYU and served an LDS mission. I pay my tithing, have a current temple recommend, and regularly attend my church meetings. I am not bitter with this church. However, this whole issue with the church wanting to block gay marriage has made me feel very uncomfortable.

    I struggle with wanting to being obedient to my church leaders vs. feeling compassion and respect for homosexuals. I don’t feel that the gays are threatening traditional marriages. I want the gays to be treated with love and support as we should treat any individual. What happened to tolerance towards others? What happened to love and compassion? I just don’t get it.

    My ward and stake seem turbo charged on this whole “prop 8″ thing. I can’t wait till this is over.

    I would like to hear more from active members of the church. Maybe others feel the same way I do, but they are afraid to speak out. I need to be true to my heart and obedient to the spirit.

  19. 19Franon 25 Aug 2008 at 6:06 am

    Anonymous,

    I can relate to how you feel. Having a family member who is gay, always makes me think about how I want him to be treated, what opportunities I want for him etc. I want my family member to be as happy as he possibly can be. Realizing that his struggle is not even one he chose, makes it even harder to think that some of the happiest occasions in life wouldn’t be open to him. Well, as it goes, he doesn’t live in the US and where he lives he can get married if he wants to, so it’s not as much of an issue for him, but I think of others who may be in a similar situation as him.

    I think following the spirit in your voting decision is a good idea. I have thought a lot about what I would vote on. I ended up deciding that I would support proposition 8. I don’t know if it helps to explain my reasoning for that but here it is: I would support it, not because I believe that homosexual marriages are a threat, or that they’d do a bad job with having a good relationship, or that if they raised children, the children would be messed up. I also truly wish to for them to have all the joy in life they can have. Yet, I oppose it because I realize certain things don’t bring the happiness they could if not done right. Seeing my brother I realize that even after choosing to not be celibate, and having partners hasn’t made him happier than before. I don’t think marriage would change that for him. It’s the nature of the relationship he’s in. What he truly wants and craves he’s still not having, and probably never will in this earthly life. It pains me to see that, and I wish I could make it all ok for him. But the nature of life is that there are horrible or hard things that can’t be fixed. Another family member of mine is not gay, but will probably never marry in this life. I’m very sad for her as well. She so wishes to have a family, and to love someone, but equally like others this doesn’t seem to happen for her, and fixing it with something that “appears” like a fix, but isn’t in reality doesn’t make things better in the long run.

    To make this short, my feeling is that while wouldn’t be “sad” or anything if proposition 8 didn’t pass, I feel that allowing marriage doesn’t help the situation of gays and lesbians. I understand their desires to be in loving relationships, and to make that commitment etc. And I am proud of those who are commmitted and faithful to the people they’ve chosen to love. Yet, I feel the nature of marriage is more than just two people loving each other. I actually think, defining it as just “between a man and a woman” isn’t really cutting it. I think it’s much more. I think it’s a whole life style, and it’s broader than two people. I do think it includes coming together to invite children into the world. I think Churchleaders do understand the situation of homosexuals. I think they feel as heartbroken for their struggles as I do. I think they want them to be happy. But I also think they realize that just letting them do what “appears” to make them temporarily happy is not the solution. I feel similar.

    I hope no one is offended that I wrote why I WOULD support proposition 8. I’m glad this forum is up and that there’s discussion. I realize it’s a sensitive issue, and personal and painful to those involved. I know members in the church still have a lot to learn in regards to kindness, compassion and understanding. But I don’t think that everyone who opposes gay marriages has bad intentions towards gays. They just may have a different idea of what will truly make them happy.

  20. 20Jeanie Mortensen-Besamoon 25 Aug 2008 at 9:21 am

    Regarding Fran’s last sentence…

    I think it is inappropriate for any straight person, LDS or not, to decide what would make a gay or transgender individual truly happy.

  21. 21Chino Blancoon 26 Aug 2008 at 6:54 am

    There’s a very interesting interview with Mike Huckabee that’s been posted over at:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=34561

    In which Huckabee holds Romney responsible for implementing gay marriage in Massachusetts …

    “I would not have done that,” said Huckabee, who taped an appearance on CNSNews.com’s “Online with Terry Jeffrey” on August 15.

    In a 4-3 decision issued on Nov. 18, 2003, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry in Massachusetts. The court gave the state legislature until May 17, 2004 to enact legislation to allow such marriages to take place.

    In the intervening time, the Massachusetts legislature did not enact a law codifying same-sex marriages. Before the May 17, 2004 deadline, however, then-Gov. Romney directed that the words “bride” and “groom” on Massachusetts marriage applications be changed to “Party A” and “Party B.”

    Romney’s chief legal counsel, Daniel Winslow, told justices of the peace in Massachusetts that they should carry out the decision of the court and perform same-sex marriages or resign.

    “My message was: ‘You took an oath, and you don’t have to agree or disagree with the law, you took an oath to uphold the law. Your only job is to follow the law,’” Winslow told Pete Winn of CNSNews.com in January. “We’ll leave it to the courts to litigate what the law is, but once the courts have ruled, if you’ve taken an oath under the constitution, you have to follow your oath.”

    Welcome to the ProtectMarriage.com coalition.

    With friends like these …

  22. 22Jeanieon 27 Aug 2008 at 9:41 am

    Please let any married LGBT couples that you are acquainted with know about this website:
    http://www.MarriageCardProject.com
    Polls are showing that the “movable middle” is most likely to be influenced by seeing loving LGBT couples and families who really aren’t much different from other families in their everyday lives.
    This project was started by a gay friend of mine, Paul Waters, who has been involved in the gay rights movement for years.

  23. 23kodoson 27 Aug 2008 at 12:55 pm

    I’m wondering…is anybody compiling reports about what the church is actually doing at the ward and stake level? Are some stakes more active than others? How is the effort being organized? (I’ve seen lots of information like that, but it would be nice if it were documented in one place.)

  24. 24admin3on 27 Aug 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Some stakes are definitely more active than others. Although some places, like Mormons for Marriage, have been online early with information, it appears that other efforts are just beginning to ramp up. Just taking a look at the number of blogs and news articles on both sides of the issue is evidence that more people are getting involved and talking about it. As election day approaches, and as campaigns in Arizona and Florida heat up as well, there’s sure to be more online. One site that tends to keep up well with LDS-related gay news and internet happenings is affirmation.org (linked to on our sidebar).

  25. 25admin4on 27 Aug 2008 at 4:42 pm

    The letter below was sent to all Stakes in California. From what I understand each Stake/Ward can be as involved as they choose. I know one ward only had the original letter read and nothing since, while another ward is doing “something” every Sunday until the election.

    PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING POINTS IN RELIEF SOCIETY AND PRIESTHOOD OPENING EXERCISES THIS SUNDAY, AUGUST 10, ONLY.

    1. The First Presidency’s letter dated June 20, 2008, to all Church members in California states, “we ask that you do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time…”

    2. In connection with the Proposition 8 campaign’s grassroots efforts, the supporting coalition, of which the Church is a member, will hold three walk/phone days to help generate voter support on August 16, 23 and September 6. We invite everyone who can do so to please participate either by “walking” that is, visiting homes door to door in assigned neighborhoods, or by phoning neighbors in specific assigned neighborhoods, for three hours each of these three days.

    3. Church members who have been asked to help with the campaign will be calling you at your homes to officially ask you to help and give you further information about where and what time to meet this Saturday

    4. They will also ask you to bring a friend from another faith to assist.

    We, as a Bishopric, ask you to please participate in this important endeavor.

    The First Presidency also stated that “our best efforts are required to preserve the sacred institution of marriage.”

  26. 26kodoson 27 Aug 2008 at 5:14 pm

    I realize there is lots of variation in what wards/stakes are doing. I also understand that there is a lot of pressure coming down from the top for the “less active” wards and stakes to do more. That’s one reason why I’d be interested if somebody is trying to systematically gather reports on what is going on.

  27. 27Chino Blancoon 27 Aug 2008 at 6:31 pm

    Great news:

    “In a Public Policy Institute of California survey released Wednesday, 54 percent of likely voters said they opposed Proposition 8, which would ban same-sex marriage. The initiative has the support of 40 percent of voters.”

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_10318977

    Yay!

  28. 28admin2on 27 Aug 2008 at 8:53 pm

    We’ll let post a link here if we find a place online listing actions. There was one person who did this during Prop 22, but it wasn’t posted till after the election.

  29. 29admin2on 28 Aug 2008 at 7:50 am

    A recent poll is showing that support for Prop 8 has slipped slightly lately:
    Most oppose bid to ban gay marriage in California, poll finds
    Fifty-four percent of likely voters are against Prop. 8, with 40% supporting the measure. But when asked if same-sex couples should be allowed to wed, respondents were evenly split.
    By Jessica Garrison
    Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

    10:36 PM PDT, August 27, 2008

    California voters remain closely divided on the concept of gay marriage, but a significant majority of likely voters oppose a measure to ban it, according to a poll released Wednesday by the Public Policy Institute of California.

    Proposition 8, which would amend the state Constitution to allow marriage only between a man and a woman, is trailing 40% to 54% among likely voters, according to the poll. In a separate question, pollsters asked respondents if they support or oppose allowing gay men and lesbians to marry. On that question, Californians were evenly split, 47% to 47%.

    Mark Baldassare, president of the policy institute, said the election probably will be close, in part because of the even split in the general attitude toward gay marriage, but also because those supporting Proposition 8 were more likely to describe the issue as important to them than were voters on the other side.

    The polling, he said, “shows a deeply divided electorate.”

    Wednesday’s poll was in line with previous surveys. Support for Proposition 8 has slipped slightly in the institute’s poll since a survey last month that showed 51% of voters against and 42% in favor.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaymarriage28-2008aug28,0,6444457.story

  30. 30Kalonon 29 Aug 2008 at 7:53 am

    For a great website that thoughtfully addresses issues surrounding California’s Proposition 8 that is direct from the LDS church see http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/public-issues/same-gender-attraction

  31. 31Krys Corbetton 29 Aug 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Thanks Kalon for posting the link. There is another one more directly about Prop 8 that has fewer of what many found offensive about the first (to start, comparing homosexuality to mental retardation, even if unintentionally). Here’s that new link: http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/the-divine-institution-of-marriage

    I appreciate the LDS church making clear its doctrine on the point. When it beings to make secular arguments, however, then it must be willing to continue the discussion on that basis, or, as Dallin Oaks has said: “on their merits” (http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1992.htm/ensign%20october%201992%20.htm/religious%20values%20and%20public%20policy.htm?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0)

    One thing that troubles me about the current debate is the sense that not just the position chosen, but even its relative merits, is beyond debate on those merits. The church having chosen to engage in the debate, it should be willing to discuss on “the merits.”

    So the church should be free to make a statement like the following (from a 12 August LDS church publication): “[T]he legalization of same-sex marriage likely will erode the social identity, gender development, and moral character of children.”

    But then it seems okay to use reason, empirical study, and comparisons to other societies to see if that is truly the case. And here, there is precious little evidence they are correct. (I think “gender development” means that if homosexuality is okay, then more children will “choose” it. That doesn’t seem to have been the case in the European countries that are more open, in the US since it has become more accepted, or even in places like Afghanistan where it is severely punished.)

  32. 32concerned...on 31 Aug 2008 at 5:54 pm

    I believe deeply in the law of tithes, and have always payed it fully. I’ve always gotten additional satisfaction out of this decision knowing that my money would be going to great causes, like humanitarian aid, temple building, supporting families, providing education, etc.

    I realize that the vast majority of the church’s resources are still going towards these things. But now I’m worried that some of my tithing is going to support a campaign that I find very discriminatory, and absolutely do not want to fund.

    How have all of you handled this dilemmas? How do you feel about paying tithing knowing what it might support?

  33. 33Brett Bradshawon 02 Sep 2008 at 12:31 pm

    The No. CA No on Prop 8 Campaign is holding a kick-off event this coming Saturday, Sept. 6th, from 10 am – 2 pm at its San Francisco Headquarters. San Francisco Mayor Newsom will speak, but the main activities are to hold a state-wide phone bank for volunteers to make calls to undecided voters, and to hold a speakers bureau training for persons who are interested in becoming spokespeople or otherwise speaking publicly against Prop 8. Come join the festivities to launch the public portion of the campaign to oppose Prop 8.

    Northern California Campaign Kick-off!
    San Francisco No on Prop 8 Headquarters
    2278 Market Street, 2nd Floor
    San Francisco, CA 94114

    Contact for more information:
    info@NoOnProp8.com
    (415) 267-3910

  34. 34admin3on 03 Sep 2008 at 8:23 pm

    RE #23

    There’s a new website tracking LDS donations to the proposition. It looks like it’s a work in progress, but it might give you an idea where the donations are coming from.

    http://mormonsfor8.com/

  35. 35Jeanie Mortensen-Besamoon 05 Sep 2008 at 8:37 pm

    If you are in the Los Angeles, CA Area, here’s an event you can support–

    7 Straight Nights for Equal Rights

    Be part of a national event that provides straight Americans with the opportunity to do justice and to stand up and be counted for equal rights. In California, Proposition 8 threatens to eliminate the right of our gay and transgender relatives, neighbors and coworkers to marry. Come and join us to promote equality and civil rights and help defeat Prop 8.

    Candlelight Vigil and March
    Date: Friday, September 19th
    Time: 7 pm to 9 pm
    Place: Corner of Rinaldi St. and Corbin Ave. (Porter Ranch Town Center) in the San Fernando Valley
    (Take the Porter Ranch exit off the 118 freeway and turn east on Rinaldi St.)

    Make it a “date night” or family outing! Come early and purchase dinner at the food court or one of the restaurants in the shopping center and then meet us at the gathering spot on the corner behind the food court.
    If you are unable to participate in the ½ mile march, there is bench seating at the gathering spot where you can maintain vigil.

    Questions? E-mail 7SN.LosAngeles@gmail.com or visit sevenstraightnights.org

  36. 36Chino Blancoon 12 Sep 2008 at 3:10 am

    One aspect of political education would seem to involve familiarizing ourselves with our opponents (who they are, what agendas they bring, etc.).

    Ron Prentice is CEO of the California Family Council and Chairman of ProtectMarriage.com …

    A freelance journalist, Justin McLachlan, has broken a major story in the Prop 8 battle: California Family Council spends most of the public’s contributions on employees, not programs.

    http://justinmclachlan.com/08/46/california-family-council-money/

    An excerpt:

    “Since 2003, the public has given the Riverside, Calif.-based California Family Council (CFC) nearly $3 million to support charitable work that the organizations says “protects and fosters Judeo-Christian principles in California’s laws.” But, according to its federal tax returns, little more than $500,000 of that money has gone to “program services,” or expenses directly related to that charitable work.

    In contrast, the CFC’s top two employees, including its founder and executive director, Ron Prentice, were paid a total of $1.1 million over four years. The CFC’s other employees earned a total of $900,000 in compensation — bringing the total spent on employees at the Council to about $2 million since it began in 2003.”

    So far, there’ve been about a dozen news and blog pieces that have appeared online referencing Justin’s research into Ron Prentice and his pocket-lining ways.

    Folks volunteering for and making contributions to the “Yes on 8″ campaign should be aware that the operatives running the show have a track record of using contributions to generously reward themselves.

  37. 37Chino Blancoon 15 Sep 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Just a follow-up to my previous comment …

    CFC (finally) releases a list of its board of directors:

    http://justinmclachlan.com/08/51/cfc-finally-releases-a-list-of-its-board-of-directors/

    When you’ve got a Yes side that gets away with sponsoring their ballot committee with a suspended outfit like California Renewal, it’s nice to see them required to demonstrate even a smidgen of accountability before Nov. 4. Yay!

  38. 38Chino Blancoon 16 Sep 2008 at 10:32 am

    Oh my, the issue of how Yes on 8 funds are being handled is really beginning to attract serious attention:

    Orange County’s OC WATCHDOG: Crusading for ‘Judeo-Christian values’ doesn’t come cheap:

    http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/16/charity-spends-more-on-overhead-than-on-protecting-judeo-christian-values/

    I just read this article in Provo’s Daily Herald:

    LDS donate millions to fight gay marriage

    http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/280669/3/

    In the article, Nadine Hansen predicts that ” … when this is done, probably 80 percent of the money [from individuals] will be from Mormons …”

    What a shame that these contributions are being managed by an ethically-challenged bunch of Evangelical operatives.

  39. 39Tristan Callon 18 Sep 2008 at 9:49 pm

    I am interested in doing private and public meetings discussing Proposition 8 and how we can respond to it as supporters of gay rights and Mormons, here in Salt Lake City. If anyone knows of any similar events here in Utah or would like to help organize, let me know at tristancall@gmail.com

    Thanks,

    Tristan Call

  40. 40Chino Blancoon 22 Sep 2008 at 8:44 pm

    Just curious: Any ‘Yes on 8′ yard sign sightings to report?

  41. 41Jeanieon 22 Sep 2008 at 8:52 pm

    My daughter contacted the Yes on 8 folks to request a sign. (She wanted to see what they looked like.) She was told that there has been a problem with the supplier (or distributor) and no one has the signs yet. When she asked about the mass display on the 22nd, she was told that this has been delayed for a week or two.

    (When she was telling us about this, someone in the group joked that maybe there was a sympathizer at the sign factory…”Oh dear! You mean it was suppose to say ‘Yes on 8?’ So sorry.”)

    So, we’ve got another week or so to get letters to the editor submitted.

  42. 42Chino Blancoon 23 Sep 2008 at 8:34 pm

    The details are starting to come in about that supplier problem:

    The Floundering Yes on 8 Campaign: One Million Missing Lawn Signs Found in China

    http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7013

    Funniest thing I’ve read all week.

  43. 43Keithon 03 Oct 2008 at 7:56 am

    Apparently, the signs are now in. I just received an e-mail asking for volunteers to help distribute them so that they can all be posted by October 7.

  44. 44Jeanieon 11 Oct 2008 at 11:28 am

    The Ventura County Star published this Letter to the Editor that I sent in just two days ago. I used CM’s letter as the template and tweaked it to include the website etc. I was surprised that they published it so fast because there are lots of Prop 8 letters being submitted. I sent it out with the title “BYU Law Professor Refutes Claims made by Yes on 8 campaign”, hoping that this would get someone’s attention.

    I encourage everyone to submit letters to the editor of their local papers. Including some reference to the Mormon church (like “BYU” or the website name) helps your letter stand out because LDS members are flooding the papers with their own Pro 8 letters. I’m including my letter here because it really helps to have something to start with, like I did the CM’s letter.
    ********
    BYU Law Professor Refutes Claims made by Yes on 8 Campaign

    Proponents of Proposition 8 have been misleading voters by claiming six consequences if it fails. These arguments are logically and clearly refuted by Morris Thurston, an adjunct professor at BYU Law School, in a document posted at mormonsformarriage.com. Here is a brief summary of some of his points.

    Regarding the claim that children in public school will have to be taught that same-sex marriage is just as good as traditional marriage: Current Education Code requires students to be taught respect for marriage and committed relationships in age-appropriate instruction. This will not change regardless of whether Proposition 8 passes or is defeated.

    Regarding the claim that religious adoption agencies will be required to give up their right to place children only in homes with both a mother and a father– Adoption Agencies that take government funds must abide by government’s non-discrimination laws. Church agencies that do not accept such funds will continue to be able to place babies with couples that meet their selection criteria.

    Regarding the claim that ministers would be sued if they refused to marry a gay couple– The California Supreme Court specifically noted that its ruling would not require any priest, rabbi or minister to perform gay marriages.

    Regarding the claim that churches would be forced to open their facilities to gay marriages—This is a misrepresentation of a case in New Jersey where a church lost a property tax exemption for a public-access boardwalk pavilion because they illegally discriminated by refusing to allow a gay commitment ceremony.

    Go to the website and read the entire document to find out the truth. Don’t be misled by inaccurate claims. Fair-minded people, regardless of their religious faith, want to defeat Proposition 8 because it denies equal rights to all Californians.

  45. 45Captain Moronion 11 Oct 2008 at 11:01 pm

    I live neither in Utah or California, but my wife and I got calls from the RS leadership and my Quorum President asking us to volunteer for working a phone bank for a 4 hour shift. Neither said where the phone bank will be or other details, just that our Area 70 emailed the Area’s stake presidents and asked them to gather lists of volunteers. Hopefully we’ll get more info tomorrow.

  46. 46Chino Blancoon 12 Oct 2008 at 4:30 am

    Calitics and Brian Devine are currently matching No on 8 donations through today up to $2,500:

    http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7141

    It looks like there’s still $485 left to go:

    http://www.actblue.com/page/be_devine_8

    In the category of non-Mormon, California-based, No on 8 blogs … Calitics has got to be one of the most respectful and effective I’ve seen on this issue (they’ve been very careful to avoid demonizing Mormons or the LDS church in the course of their opposition to Prop 8). If you can drop a few bucks before the end of today over at the ActBlue page linked to above, their CaliPAC will match your donation.

    And it would also be a chance to drop a comment at the Calitics diary linked to above to let them know that Mormons for Marriage readers appreciate their matching funds and their continued thoughtful opposition to Prop 8 and Mormon involvement in the Yes on 8 campaign.

  47. 47Chino Blancoon 16 Oct 2008 at 10:02 pm

    You are invited to join the Gary Pritchard for State Senate campaign with organizers Nikki Moldovan and her Father with his husband at the corners of Oso Parkway & Antonio Parkway in Rancho Santa Margarita from 4:00-6:00pm this Friday 10/17 for a No on Prop 8 rally.

  48. 48Jeanieon 17 Oct 2008 at 4:24 pm

    I just read in the newspaper last night that CTA (California Teachers Association) donated $1 million to the No on 8 campaign. They had already donated $250,000 earlier in the summer. The reason cited for the donation was that teachers deal with the importance of equality and appreciation for diversity everyday and see the actual ramifications of intolerance I’m so proud to be a teacher and part of this group!

  49. 49Jeanieon 18 Oct 2008 at 4:30 pm

    I’m totally jazzed!!
    Now you need to understand that I live in a VERY conservative city, Simi Valley, in So. Calif. Today the local LDS wards had members standing with Yes on 8 signs at various busy intersections in the city, about a dozen or so at each corner. About two hours ago I got a call from my daughter telling me that young adults were spontaneously making their own No on 8 signs and congregating at the corners where the Yes on 8 people were. I had seven No on 8 yard signs in my garage and my daughter thought I should take them to the protestors. They were SO EXCITED to get the signs. I could have given away 20 or so. Within an hour there were about 40 young adults at one intersection and the energy was incredible. Horms were honking like crazy as passerbys showed their support. The Yes on 8 people left. I told some of the group that there were just 6 or so No on 8 people at another corner amidst the Yes on 8 people there. About 20 packed up and drove to that intersection. When I went there about 10 minutes later (at the first intersection there were 2 Jr. High girls with signs that said “Let my Moms marry!” and I wanted to make sure that they weren’t left alone on a corner), that energy had now shifted to this new intersection. Horns, cheers, etc. I’d didn’t stay but my bet is that the Yes on 8 supporters eventually conceded that intersection too.
    The young adults (most looked like they were 19-25 years old) told me that they were so excited about their success that they are gong to tell all their friends and REALLY make a showing next weekend. They said that if they could get 50 people together just on the spur of the moment, just think what they could do if they had a week to spread the word. I’m really glad that I stopped to talk to them and thank them. They really seemed to appreciate the validation from an “old” person like me.
    I’ll keep you posted on what happens next week.

  50. 50sandraon 18 Oct 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Can you provide us with information as to what intersections and the time? I would like to show up for the NO campaign. What a great idea!!

  51. 51Jeanieon 18 Oct 2008 at 9:55 pm

    I talked to a few people tonight and it looks like there is sufficient momentum and interest to really make this an event next Saturday, Oct. 25th. They want to start at the intersection of Sycamore and Cochran in Simi Valley. (Take the Sycamore exit off the 118 Freeway and go south one block.) I haven’t heard of a specific time yet but I imagine that it will be at 1 or 2 pm when they will start. Once there are sufficient numbers, they want to “take back” every other intersection in the city that has Yes on 8 folks on them. There were at least 4 such intersections in Simi Valley today. Several of us are working on getting press coverage for them. Apparently they are going to spread the word and see what kind of numbers they can get to really make this noteworthy.
    I’ll post more information as I get it, but please spread the word…Simi Valley is the place to be next Saturday afternoon….and don’t forget your sign. (“This Mormon says No on 8!” would be a good one.)

  52. 52Chino Blancoon 21 Oct 2008 at 7:29 am

    Rick Jacobs, Chair and Founder of the Courage Campaign, asks some important questions on the front page of The Huffington Post today:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-jacobs/do-mormons-deserve-equal_b_136392.html

  53. 53admin3on 21 Oct 2008 at 3:56 pm

    ADF attorney to debate same-sex ‘marriage,’ religious liberty at UCLA Wednesday
    ADF Senior Counsel Jordan Lorence will participate in debate on effects of same-sex ‘marriage’ on First Amendment rights
    Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:45 PM (MST) |
    ADF Media Relations | 480-444-0020

    WHO: ADF Senior Counsel Jordan Lorence
    WHAT: Debate on religious liberty vs. same-sex “marriage”
    WHEN: Wednesday, Oct. 22, 12:15 p.m. PDT
    WHERE: UCLA School of Law, 405 Hilgard Ave., Room 1347, Los Angeles

    LOS ANGELES — Alliance Defense Fund Senior Counsel Jordan Lorence will participate in a debate Wednesday at the UCLA School of Law on the effects of same-sex “marriage” on First Amendment rights. The debate will address how the conflict affects religious liberty and the right of conscience in the context of business owners, parents with children in public schools, applicants for professional licenses, houses of worship with tax-exempt status, and other aspects of society.

    For the rest of the story: http://alliancedefensefund.org/news/story.aspx?cid=4715

  54. 54admin3on 21 Oct 2008 at 3:58 pm

    “All Families Matter – Vote No on 8″ Merchandise has been newly created at cafepress – http://shop.cafepress.com./all-families-matter

    Enjoy!

  55. 55Alan Scotton 23 Oct 2008 at 3:57 am

    The local No on 8 group in San Luis Obispo, CA is planning a rally on Sunday, November 2nd, and we’d really like to have a Mormon speaker at the event.

    If you’re a Mormon on the Central Coast who opposes proposition 8 and would be willing to speak about it, please contact me at alanrileyscott@hotmail.com

  56. 56Jake Ron 23 Oct 2008 at 10:03 am

    The sunday just before the election I am working to organize leaflet distribution at Mormon churches accross the state.

    I have created a flyer that I think could get some members to reconsider their vote. The flyer focuses on the historical persecution of the Mormon church and asks members to consider their heritage when voting.

    I am in the process of working with the NOon8 campaign to get media attention for this.

    If you would like me to send you a copy of the flyer with details of how my 3 brothers and myself plan to distribute them, please email me at noon8@sbcglobal.net

    According to the campaign Catholics are already targetting their churches. We should too!

  57. 57Bethon 23 Oct 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Chico, California

    RALLY FOR NO ON PROP 8
    Saturday, October 25th at 11am in the Downtown Plaza

  58. 58Keithon 23 Oct 2008 at 8:37 pm

    Jake,

    I really don’t see anything positive coming from passing out leaflets at a Mormon church.

    While there may be an individual or two sympathetic to the No on 8 cause, the vast majority are unlikely to move. And even those sympathetic may be upset by the “in you face” approach.

    If you really want to persuade people to vote no, your time and efforts could be better spent elsewhere.

  59. 59Jeanieon 24 Oct 2008 at 6:33 am

    Do you live in So. Calif? Help us take back our Simi Valley intersections this Saturday, Oct. 25!

    This is a true grassroots effort. About 40 teens and young adults started this spontaneously last Saturday and we’re going to help them repeat it this weekend. We’re meeting at Cochran and Sycamore at noon. Take the 118 Freeway to Simi Valley and exit at Sycamore. Feel free to come anytime from noon to 4 pm.

    Please pass the information to your friends who oppose Prop 8.

    If you have never done this before, you should try it. It will be a very empowering experience.

  60. 60Jake R.on 24 Oct 2008 at 6:48 am

    Sorry Jeanie, I live in Sacramento. Otherwise, I would love to join you! Good luck! I would encourage anyone in the area to join you! I will bee working the NOon8 phonebank Saturday instead.

    If you are interested in leafletting LDS members, email me and I’ll send you a flier.

    Jake

  61. 61Captain Moronion 24 Oct 2008 at 8:46 am

    To all of those who say that Prop. 8 should pass because it was the will of the people with 61% that prop 22 passed banning gay marriage. Yet when it comes to abortion, the will of the people in CA is being ignored TWICE. I wonder if all of those people pushing 8 (because 4 liberal judges ignored the will of the people) are also pushing this abortion measure contrary to the will of CA voters…TWICE!

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443841,00.html
    LOS ANGELES — California voters have twice rejected initiatives requiring that parents be notified before a minor can get an abortion, but supporters think the third time might be the charm this Election Day.

  62. 62Keithon 24 Oct 2008 at 8:47 am

    C.M.

    I’m tired of the “will of the people” and “unelected judges” arguments, primarily because they really aren’t arguments.

    Nov. 4 will tell us what the will of the people is. How we got here is largely irrelevant.

    What I do find interesting is, regardless of the outcome on Nov. 4, there has been a shift in the “will” since Prop 22 passed with 61% of the vote. Even if Prop 8 passes, it will likely be by a small margin. That’s a pretty significant shift in 8 years. It leads me to believe that passage of Prop 8 won’t put this to rest in CA. I don’t believe this will be like the ERA, where failure has apparently put the issue to rest permanently.

  63. 63Jake Ron 24 Oct 2008 at 10:05 am

    I understand that we may not change many opinions by our leafletting. But i assure you that our tactics will not be “in your face.” We plan to put the fliers are car windshields and will stand at the parking lot entreance. our main hope is to get media coverage for our rasons why Mormons should oppose 8. Email me at the above address if you would like a copy. also. i will try to make it to the downtown plaza rally!

    Jake

  64. 64Jake Ron 24 Oct 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Beth – Actually I won’t be there… I thought this was Downtown Plaza in Sacramento. Guess I need to read more clearly. I will be working a phone bank Saturday though.

  65. 65Jake Ron 24 Oct 2008 at 3:08 pm

    I have made changes to the flier I will be distributing 11/2 if you would like to help in your area email me at noon8@sbclgobal.net

    Jake

  66. 66Lauraon 28 Oct 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Earlier this month some Mormon PFLAG mothers of gay children gathered for a luncheon date. The luncheon stretched out to almost four hours as these mothers talked about what the Mormon Church’s active support for California’s Proposition 8 was doing to their families and to their loyalty for the church.

    While these mothers have tried to give their church leaders the benefit of a doubt with respect to their church’s policies, the church’s recent public support of the California Proposition that would take away the civil rights of their gay children seems to have been a tipping point.

    They want to do something to show their support for their gay children and for the larger gay community. At the mothers’ urging, Salt Lake City PFLAG, Equality Utah, the Pride Center, the Inclusion Center, Affirmation, and the Human Rights Campaign have joined together and scheduled a candlelight gathering for all supporters of our homosexual friends and neighbors this Sunday evening, November 2nd, at the Salt Lake City Library plaza at 6:00 p.m.

    The gathering is open to the general public, gay, straight, Mormon and non-Mormon alike and is intended to be a positive pro-community show of support and inclusion of our gay brothers and sisters. There will be a short program featuring Mormon mothers Millie Watts, Katherine Steffensen, and Linda Barney. Candles will be provided for everyone following the program and we will join together in a short procession around the city block of the library.

    Please spread the word and encourage your friends and families to be there. This event is free. Everyone sympathetic to gay civil rights should be there. The sponsoring groups foster equality for all people. Over 100,000 people have attended such events this year alone. Having a large number of participants will be an eye opener to many who honestly believe our numbers are few. Let’s join with our gay friends and show them that they are valued and equal members of our community.

    WHAT: Candlelight gathering

    WHEN: This Sunday evening, November 2nd, 6:00 p.m.

    WHERE: The Plaza of the Salt Lake City Library, 200 East 300 South

  67. 67Lauraon 02 Nov 2008 at 3:26 pm

    If you are near Los Angeles, the No on 8 campaign has planned the following visibility activities. They’re hoping for significant turnout, so please feel free to share this information far and wide.

    Sunday Nov 2

    – 12-3:00 pm: Meet at the intersection of Santa Monica and Sweetzer in West Hollywood.
    – 4-7:00 pm: Rally at West Hollywood Park, at the intersection of Santa Monica and Robertson.
    – 4-6:00 pm: Meet in Silverlake at the intersection of Sanborn and Sunset (near the Circus of Books).

    Monday Nov 3

    – 4-6:00 pm: Meet in Silverlake at the intersection of Sanborn and Sunset (near the Circus of Books).
    – 7:30-9:30 AM: Morning rally at the intersection of Santa Monica and Westbourne.
    – 5-8:30 pm: Meet at the intersection of Santa Monica and Robertson.

    You can also sign up for election days shifts for No on 8:

    – 6:30 am – 8:30 pm (whole day)
    – 6:30 am – 10:00 am (morning)
    – 11:00 am – 2:00 pm
    – 4:30 pm – 8:30 pm (evening)

    If you want to work on election day, there are training sessions on Sunday and Monday. Call Marilyn at (626) 394-4624. For more info on the Silverlake events, call Dan at (323) 872-8044.

    Thanks for your support!

  68. 68Jeanieon 02 Nov 2008 at 9:18 pm

    If anyone has a link to any video of the SLC vigil, please post it. I would love to see how it went. My thoughts have been with the participants all evening.

  69. 69ANDYon 03 Nov 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Jeanie, comment #204 at the link below has additional links to media coverage of the Salt Lake vigil:

    http://mormonsformarriage.com/?page_id=21

  70. 70ANDYon 06 Nov 2008 at 8:12 am

    As in many struggles, this is among one of the many points we will pass. Californians will be pondering this for years to come, but so will the nation and the world.

    I believe fairness in giving us our equal rights will eventually come to pass, but it may be in our children’s life time, not ours.

    As for Obama, I understand if he does little for civil rights in his first term; there are much bigger issues for our nation and world to resolve. Maybe in the 2nd term.

  71. 71Jeanieon 08 Nov 2008 at 3:30 pm

    There is a large protest scheduled for tonight (Saturday, Nov. 8) in Silverlake (So. Calif.) from 6-9 pm. Sunset and Santa Monica Blvd.

  72. 72Lauraon 12 Nov 2008 at 12:18 am

    For those interested in marching for rights this weekend, check out the national rally information at http://www.jointheimpact.com

    Rallies are being held at city halls in every state beginning at 10:30 PST/1:30 EST this Saturday, Nov. 15th.

    If there’s not a rally already scheduled near you, you can take the opportunity to start one at the website listed above.

  73. 73Not Molly Mormonon 12 Nov 2008 at 9:00 am

    If anyone would like to join me, I will be at the NYC Temple tonight joining my gay brothers and sisters.

    p.s. what should I put on my sign?????

  74. 74Lauraon 12 Nov 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Will Neville is trying to put together a short film on the national protests this weekend, but really needs your help… If you know anyone who can get video of your event (camera or even cell phones) and would be willing to share their footage, PLEASE contact him.

    He works at a national nonprofit dedicated to youth activism, and we really want to help build this moment. We were able to get a film crew to the SLC event last Friday, and it was amazing.

    So please, shoot video of the events this weekend – and ask anyone with footage to sent it to or contact me at FightBackAgainstHate@gmail.com.

    Thanks in advance, and keep up the awesome work! Will

  75. 75Beth Burtonon 12 Nov 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Chico, California

    “Our Families Count, too” RALLY AND MARCH

    Saturday, November 15th at 10:30 am

    Downtown Plaza, march to the Farmers’ Market

    With the passage of Proposition 8, making discrimination constitutional, many people are upset and hurt by the decision of their neighobors to outlaw their love. In solidarity with actions around the country, we will gather at Downtown Plaza, stand proudly and proclaim “Our Families Count, too”.

  76. 76Chino Blancoon 20 Nov 2008 at 8:27 am

    For the record, this is now the third consecutive election cycle in which LDS campaign pros have mobilized the Mormon grassroots to make a major impact. Rewind to 2004 (remember the importance of Ohio in that year’s presidential contest?):

    “Latter-day Saint Volunteers: 50% in Akron … That’s about 3% of the Latter-day Saint population in Akron, a county where Latter-day Saints only comprise about 3/10ths of a percent of the population … In the end, 50% of the poll observers were LDS … [As Bart Marcois told me, 'Our voices need to be heard during the election so that we will be included in the policy setting after the elections.']”

    http://chinoblanco.blogspot.com/2008/11/eagle-foundation.html

  77. 77Chino Blancoon 29 Nov 2008 at 9:09 am

    I liked this idea so much, this is just me promoting this post over at PHB:

    Meet our Families Day

    http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8437

  78. 78Chino Blancoon 09 Dec 2008 at 5:23 am

    I just ran across this great entry over at Calitics.com and thought I’d pass it along: http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7655

    Ha!

  79. 79Chino Blancoon 21 Mar 2010 at 10:09 am

    WHAT: Demonstration at Mitt Romney’s San Diego Book Signing
    WHEN: Monday, March 22nd at 6:00 pm
    WHERE: Deseret Bookstore (meet at S.E. Corner of Nobel Dr. and Villa La Jolla Dr.)
    La Jolla Village Sq. Shopping Center, 8657 Villa La Jolla Dr., La Jolla, CA 92037
    (Exit 28 off I-5 south — Exit 28A off I-5 north)
    Call 619-592-2008 for details.

  80. 80fiona64on 24 Mar 2010 at 3:23 pm

    For those who don’t know, there has been yet another delay in being able to set final argument dates re: the Prop 8 challenge.

    Particulars are under discussion at http://www.prop8trialtracker.com.

  81. 81FirstTimeon 15 Apr 2011 at 1:00 pm

    I am a devout Mormon and straight. But since this Prop 8 issue percolated, I have disagreed with the church’s position and political invovlement. As a public defender who has spent years defendimg the rights of citizens under our state and federal constitutions, I cannot see how the church’s position would not be violative of rights those rights. The church’s position is legally untenable. And so I’m wondering – if this case goes to the U.S. Supreme Court, would this organization be interested in drafting and submitting an amicus brief? Although this case is likely to draw uncountable amici, and I have no illusions that anything we submit would be the outcome determinative argument in the case, I think it would be a way, on a very high profile stage, to let people know that there are faithful Mormons who fully support the rights of all the marry. It would require a lot of work, to be certain, but I think those who are drawn to this site have an important voice in the debate. (This thread has been dead for awhile, and I’m not sure if anyone is still visiting this site, but I thought I send up a flare just in case anyone out there is listening and likes this idea).

  82. 82fiona64on 15 Apr 2011 at 3:11 pm

    I can say absolutely that people are still reading/noticing. Thanks for this idea, FirstTime. Laura, what say you? I know that I would cheerfully sign on as one of the amici.

  83. 83Sheryl Becketton 17 Apr 2011 at 10:39 pm

    I like the idea, should it go to the Supreme Court and am most willing to sign it.

  84. 84Arleneon 19 Apr 2011 at 3:04 pm

    I like the idea, as well – please count me in.

  85. 85FirstTimeon 26 Apr 2011 at 11:18 am

    Great. Glad to know folks are still visiting this website and that there is support for the idea of an amicus brief from this organization if this case goes to the U.S. Supreme Court. Here’s what we would need if that happens: Volunteer attorneys who are part of MormonsForMarriage.com, or at least a group of attorneys who support the idea and are willing to work pro bono in assisting with research, drafting, and editing. As an attorney, I am willing to organize an amicus committee and cordinate the briefing, but I would certainly need a lot of assistance. We would also need to raise a few thousand dollars for printing costs.

    I’m not sure what the next step is. Even though this case may never reach SCOTUS, we should be prepared if it gets to that point. I suggest a sub thread, under “Political Action and Education”, and incorporating the posts already made on this topic, be added to the site to faciliate particpation. Maybe title the thread: “Amicus Brief Updates”, with an explanation, request for assistance, etc.

    Thoughts?

  86. 86Brad Carmackon 26 Nov 2011 at 9:33 am

    I passed the California bar and plan to swear in next month- count me in.

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